delivered by Jim Robertson to the
Central Christian Church,
January 24th, 1994
1. Joseph Smith joined the Methodist Church. It's in the Pearl of Great Price.
|| Joseph was
"partial" to the
Church (Joseph Smith's History, Pearl of Great Price,
but to date no critic has presented evidence that he joined that
Church. We challenge Mr. Robertson or Mr.
Burns to produce the reference.
2. Joseph and Hyrum went over at night and burned the Nauvoo Expositor.
||Patently untrue. The Nauvoo Expositor was ordered
destroyed by the Nauvoo City Council and the order was carried out in broad daylight by
the City Marshal (see History of the Church 6:432)
3. A question was asked by someone in the congregation: How can a Mormon
accept these teachings? Jim Robertson said: I was a Bishop, and I accepted it.
||Robertson was NEVER a bishop in the LDS Church.
See our response to this issue by clicking
here. Since LDS Bishops are issued a ministerial certificate, we challenge
Robertson to produce his and place a copy on his web site. As a
pre-emptive strike, we suggest that he has made a big deal about this and repeated this
over many years. Therefore, it must be a big deal to him, hence we will not buy an additional
lie that he has lost or destroyed his certificate.
4. The Mormon Church says that you are not officially married unless you are married
in the Temple.
||Untrue. Mr. Robertson, please provide an official
5. If the Jews are not Mormons, they are considered Gentiles.
||Untrue. Mr. Robertson please provide an official citation.
6. The Mormon Church was to try to prove one lie in the film (The God
Makers) and to sue
us and make us stop showing the film. They have not found one.
||We challenge Mr. Robertson to produce any official LDS Church
statement to the effect that they would sue, but were unable to find "one
lie." The film has been shown to be full of lies. See for example,
Gilbert W. Scharffs, The Truth About "The God Makers,"
Robert & Rosemary Brown, They Lie In Wait To Deceive, Vol. IV,
and Robert Starling, A MORMON CHALLENGES "THE
GODMAKERS" MOVIE (Rev. 1995)
by Jim Robertson on January 31, 1994 at same location.
1. Baptism is for membership in the Church, not for taking away sins.
||Untrue. See Article
of Faith # 4
2. After Joseph was told not to join any church, 2 years later he joined the
||Untrue. See response to #1 in the first lecture above.
3. Two thirds of the Book of Mormon came from View of the Hebrews by Ethan Smith.
||A statement often advocated by certain of the anti-Mormon
community. However, it is patently untrue and has been shown as such in:
John W. Welch, "An Unparallel: Ethan Smith and the Book of
Mormon," FARMS paper:1985.
4. Brigham Young had 87 wives, Joseph Smith had 46, I think it was.
||"I think it was?" C'mon Mr. Robertson,
pulling numbers out of the air is hardly truthful.
5. A Mormon can't drink hot chocolate, it is against the Word of Wisdom.
||Hot chocolate is not prohibited by the Word
of Wisdom (Doctrine & Covenants, Sec. 89). See also Bruce
R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 845.
6. In 1854, the name was changed to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
||Untrue. That name was given by revelation in
See Doctrine and Covenants 115:3-4.
7. There was a raid on Joseph City because of polygamy.
||Actually, at the
time it was named Short Creek and later renamed Colorado City.
Joseph City had nothing to do with it and isn't even close in
locale. Besides, what has this to do with the LDS Church? Those folks were
excommunicated many, many years ago for practicing polygamy contrary to the rule
of the Church.
8. Polygamy is still okay today. All you have to do is go to a different
Temple to get married to another wife.....(a member of the congregation said: The
state of Arizona would not allow it. Jim replied: You just go to a different
||An incredibly untrue statement.
The only truth in this statement is that "the State of Arizona would
not allow it." The rest of Mr. Robertson's comments are untrue;
and we feel that Mr. Robertson has enough intelligence to know better.