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Pres. Packer's Remarks at a Highland UT South Stake Conference

Posted:  20 Oct 2008

An example of an item currently being circulated on the Internet, purporting to be the remarks that Pres. Boyd K. Packer, of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, at a Highland UT South Stake Conference, is shown below.

The remarks are NOT an official transcript of anything Pres. Packer said. We believe that he did make some remarks in that meeting, but the item being circulated is not approved by Pres. Packer and should not be circulated. There is no way to know the accuracy of the remarks. They are filtered through someone's eyes and may not be accurate. The remarks made by the General Authorities, in General Conference, are what we should be paying heed to and to official letters and/or Press Releases by the Brethren..

We are instructed that the useful response to this rumor is found in the 1st Presidency's Letter already posted elsewhere on our site.

We are counseled to follow the brethren, but it often seems that some would rather choose a single Church leader than the will of the brethren. That "will" is contained in the above referenced letter.

"This came from a member of the Highland Utah South Stake

On April 26, 2008, President Packer, of the Quorum of the 12, unexpectedly attended the Highland Utah South Stake Conference.

      He spoke on some very sobering topics regarding the events that are about to come upon us. First he had his secretary, who lives in this stake, share her testimony. She quoted D&C 68:6:
      "Wherefore, be of good cheer, and do not fear, for I the Lord am with you, and will stand by you; (the promise) and ye shall bear record of me, even Jesus Christ, that I am the Son of the living God, that I was, that I am, and that I am to come. (the commandment)"

      Then he spoke on several things and he did not beat around the bush - he spoke frankly, but did so in a way that did not cause fear.

      He spoke on these points:
        1. The church is now larger in countries outside of North America
        2. North America and Europe are no longer considered Christian regions or nations.
        3. South of the equator and other 3rd world countries are more Christian, but very destitute.
      He said the time has now come that we will see some very hard times.
      He talked about how we, and the youth & parents, have basically grown up in luxury, but that he had not.
      He lived during the depression.
      He talked about things that occurred during the depression such as; soup kitchens, vagabonds and hobos that traveled the train system seeking work and food, etc.

      He told the youth and their parents that they will need to be thrifty-
        • Use it up.
        • Wear it out.
        • Make it do
        • Or do without .
      He talked to the youth about:
        1. Obeying their parents - They REALLY DO KNOW - he was trying to be gentle but firm on this
        2. Respect mothers
        3. And learning to eat differently than they had before
      He talked to the parents about Families; the Church is not, and will not be, responsible for raising the children.

      The church programs will be different - he made this seem like this change, and other changes that will occur, will happen real soon.
      He stressed that things will change, but that the Church is on the right course and he stressed this several times.
      He said the Saints in the 3rd world countries will need our help - that it will be the our responsibility (the Church).

      Notes from the Stake President/Bishops meeting that followed
        1. Ramp up your food storage in a major way (the impression was that assistance would be needed for South American peoples).
        2. Emphasis on 2 Nephi 32:9 (Pray always and not faint) - Consecrate our efforts by asking for a blessing
        3. The status of the church with regards to food storage - 27% have short term supply - 13% have long term supply
        4. Stake temple service will help us better weather the fallout of the storms that are ahead.
      In March of 2003 he came to the Stake Conference in Midway, Utah, here in our valley. He quoted one verse of scripture 3 times on Saturday night and again on Sunday morning. This is when we had just gone into Iraq.
      D&C 38:28-29
      "I say unto you that the enemy in the secret chambers seeketh your lives.
      Ye hear of wars in far countries, and you say that there will soon be great wars in far countries, but ye know not the hearts of men in your own land."

      Then he would quote the end of verse 30: "If ye are prepared ye shall not fear."

      He is trying to warn us without scaring us half to death. The First Presidency and the Quorum of the 12 know what is coming.
      They are trying to tell us. Are we listening??? Are we doing anything about it???
      They handed out those two pamphlets in General Conference last year.
      Are we listening???
      Are we doing anything about it???"